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    Do not reply according to Islam,Plz comment on the basis of our surrounding Society.

    Assalam o alaikum FM,


    Umeed hai aap sab Parwardigar k fazl o karam se
    khairiyat se hongey.

    Arz ye hai k yun to mjh qareeb ko kaafi din hogaye TV dekhy huwe, laikin kal subha kisi ka intezar kartay huwey main ne TV channels ki surfing kar raha tha, main ne aik baat khas tour per note ki…..PTV se leker jitney bhi Pakistani channels hain kam o besh 7-8 channels per main ne dekha k khwateen ne dupatta galay main dalna ya kandhay per latkana to dar kinar, siray se us ka wajood hi bardasht karma munasib na samjha tha. Asr e hazir main ye koi itni bari ya achamby ki baat nahin…..aaj kal ka fashion hai.


    Main ne aik jagha parha tha k aurat ki "chati hiss" yani 6th sense mard k muqablay aur mard k liye zara kuch ziyada hi tez hoti hai….main ye baat apni kuch female friends se bhi discuss ki aur khud bhi mushahida kiya aur is baat ko haqiqat paya……to phr kya in khwateen ko is baat ka ehsas nahin hota k un ko kin nazroon ka samna ho raha hai, yaw o is “hiss” sense se aari ho gai hain…

    Mera sawal ye nahin k un khawateen ne dupatta kyun nahin liya tha, ya ye nahin k wo Media ko represent kar rahin thin to un k liye dupatta lena lazmi tha…..nahin qataan” aisa nahin hai…..mera aik bohat hi chota sa aur zara mukhtalif sa sawal hai:

    Kya khwateen dupatta lena nahin chahitin ? ya khwateen is amr se la ta’aluq aur be khabr hain k dupatta un k jism k uss hissay ka parda hai k jissay shehwat majrooh hoti hai aur koi bhi shakhs khwah kitna hi parsaa kyun na ho aik waqt k liye neeyat danwa dol ho hi jati hai.

    Please mujhe aap log tang nazr na samjhiye ga, laikin is mouqay per mjhe Surah Al Ehzab ki Ayat # 58 Shiddat se yaad aai…………aap bhi parhain aur us k baad mjhe apni tammam Female members se reply chahiye, k kya ye khwateen qasdan” aisa karti hain, kya aisa karma chahiye ? ya k hamain is amal aur aisa tamam aamaal ki takfeer karni chahiye ?

    Main chahon ga k is ka jawab sharaee tanazur main nahin bal k maa’sharati tanazur main diya jaye….I mean to say “Do not reply according to Islam, Please comment on the basis of our surrounding Society.”


    Mods, Kindly Stick this thread..........Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamanna Ahmad View Post
    Walaikumassalam!!
    very nice topic which indicates the alarming situation of muslim girls of modern era. I will reply soon InshaAllah
    thank you

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    Is ke pechay bohat se reasons ho sktay hain jaisay...

    1. they try to act like according to atmosphere. jaisay ke kharbozay ko daikh kr kharboza rang pakerta hai bilkul wesay hi aj kal ke modern era main maahol ko daikh ker bht c muslim girls bhi ser per duppata nahi leti.
    2. ye kaha jata hai ke Insaan ke Taleem -o-Tarbiat ager us ke dillo dimagh/rooh ko roshan keray tou woh sharafat ka paiker ban jata hai aur ager taleem ser ke upper se guzar jaiye tou modern ban jata hai. Taleem insaan ko haya sikhati hai na ke maghrabi tahzeeb ko copy kerna.
    3. Aurat ka matlab hi poshidah rakhnay wali cheez hai tou aurat ko aisay well covered flower ki tarha hona chahiya jisay admire tou sab kerain lakin sirf aik insan usay hasil ker sakay.. i think is point ka matlab is topic ke laihaz se bhi wazya ho gya ho ga.
    4. shareef ghar main sab hi paida hotay hain Alhumdulliah (muslims) but asal main shareef woh hain jo burai main rah ker apni sharafat per qaim rah sakain. Mahol ki dekha dekhi khud ko badal lena (modern era ya maghrabi tahzeez ke laihaz se) tou baeed-az-aqal hai insan asal main jo hai jaisa hai waisa hi rhay tou better hai. Ab koi aap ke samnay kuwain main chalang laga de tou aap bhi us ke peechay chalang lagain gay nahi na bilkul jahalat hai ye tou.

    5. larkian duppata kion nai letin un ki kuch wajohaat main se aik ye bhi hai ke ager woh ser per duppata na lain tou koi roknay toknay wala nai hota ... mostly ye hota hai ke ji advanced family hai parhay likhay hain modern hai beti apna acha bura janti hai .... (sorry to say but akser families main parents yaan baron ke na roknay toknay sa hi girls ko duppata na lenay ki adat per jati hai ke meray ghar mai kisi ko aitraaz nai hai tou koi dosra mja kahnay wala kon hota hai? )

    I hope main na aisa kuch nahi kaha ke jis se kisi ki dill azari ho.. I apologize in advace. It's only answer to the question not pinpointing to any one in particular






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    Quote Originally Posted by cutepoison View Post
    han jee ..

    mere khayal me aaj kal hogaya ye hai k jesa deis wesa bhais ... jo buraii common hoti ja rahi hai wo buraii ki list se khatam hoti ja rahi hai ... aap agar sawal kareingy to ya to ye keh diya jaega k dakyanoosi batein nahi karo .. ya phir ye keh diya jaega k sab hi aesa karty hain .. and mere khayal me shyd ye ladies agar maghrabi mumalik jaengi to shyd wahan ki dressing hi karne lag jaen ..

    yun to Veena Malik badnam e zamana pr ek jaga us ka ek jawab mujhy pasand aya tha to mein zikar karta hon yahan ..

    jis time wo big boss karne k bad and kisi magazine pr photo shoot k bad bht badnaam hogai thi tab kisi live show me us se sawalaat kiye ja rahai thy, video sawalaat .. yunhi ek khatoon kisi market me khari hoi thi aur sawal kar rahi thi aur veena malik pr laan taan kar rahi thi k tumhy sharam ani chahye waghera ..
    jawab me veena malik ne simple kaha k aap is waqt market me khari hoi hain aur aap ka doppata sir pe nahi hai galay me hai .. aur aap isey bura nahi samjh rahi coz aap jis mahol me reh rahi hain wahan ye common hoga jab k in Islam galay me dopata aur baal khuley market me jana bhi ghalat hai pr aap k liye nahi ? ryt ? wese hi me jis mahol me reh rahi hon wahan pr wo sab ghalat nahi hai jo me kr rahi hon .. hamari filmi industry me ye sab common hai ...


    so hamein in hi soch se nikalna hoga apni khawateen ko k common kya hai wo na dekho .. sahi kya hai wo dekho ..
    @~Bahaar~ @Fareena @karachi @Pari @zoonia @Zee Leo
    Aapki ye bat qabil e ghour aur darust hai k hamari society BURAI ko apnati jarahi hai,har negative style ko fashion samajh kar pasand aur apnaya jaraha hai,ismain main 100% parents ko qasoor war tharaounga,wohi is BESHARMI AUR BEHAYAYI ke zimmedaar hain.Aakhir parents kya kar rahay hotey hain.....? laikin sath hi aik baat aur bhi kahon ga...k Women Liberation k is dour main ghar ka control Khawateen k hi hath main hai....
    Ajkal ke dour main is silsile main Husband agar apni BIWI AUR AOULAD PAR FULL CONTROL kare tou burai kisi had takk khatam hosakti hai.

    Mumkin hai aap main se boht se members ko is baat se ikhtilaf ho laikin main chahon ga k hum is subject per discuss karain na k Women Liberation per.....

    Meray wo dost jinhon ne is discussion main hissa liye aur apny khyalat ka izhar kiya, Main bohat mashkOOR hOon. Laikin main chahon ga k aur bhi members apnay khyalat ka izhar karain.
    THANK YOU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamanna Ahmad View Post
    Is ke pechay bohat se reasons ho sktay hain jaisay...

    1. they try to act like according to atmosphere. jaisay ke kharbozay ko daikh kr kharboza rang pakerta hai bilkul wesay hi aj kal ke modern era main maahol ko daikh ker bht c muslim girls bhi ser per duppata nahi leti.
    2. ye kaha jata hai ke Insaan ke Taleem -o-Tarbiat ager us ke dillo dimagh/rooh ko roshan keray tou woh sharafat ka paiker ban jata hai aur ager taleem ser ke upper se guzar jaiye tou modern ban jata hai. Taleem insaan ko haya sikhati hai na ke maghrabi tahzeeb ko copy kerna.
    3. Aurat ka matlab hi poshidah rakhnay wali cheez hai tou aurat ko aisay well covered flower ki tarha hona chahiya jisay admire tou sab kerain lakin sirf aik insan usay hasil ker sakay.. i think is point ka matlab is topic ke laihaz se bhi wazya ho gya ho ga.
    4. shareef ghar main sab hi paida hotay hain Alhumdulliah (muslims) but asal main shareef woh hain jo burai main rah ker apni sharafat per qaim rah sakain. Mahol ki dekha dekhi khud ko badal lena (modern era ya maghrabi tahzeez ke laihaz se) tou baeed-az-aqal hai insan asal main jo hai jaisa hai waisa hi rhay tou better hai. Ab koi aap ke samnay kuwain main chalang laga de tou aap bhi us ke peechay chalang lagain gay nahi na bilkul jahalat hai ye tou.

    5. larkian duppata kion nai letin un ki kuch wajohaat main se aik ye bhi hai ke ager woh ser per duppata na lain tou koi roknay toknay wala nai hota ... mostly ye hota hai ke ji advanced family hai parhay likhay hain modern hai beti apna acha bura janti hai .... (sorry to say but akser families main parents yaan baron ke na roknay toknay sa hi girls ko duppata na lenay ki adat per jati hai ke meray ghar mai kisi ko aitraaz nai hai tou koi dosra mja kahnay wala kon hota hai? )

    I hope main na aisa kuch nahi kaha ke jis se kisi ki dill azari ho.. I apologize in advace. It's only answer to the question not pinpointing to any one in particular
    aapne bhi bohot zabardast aur sahi baat ki hai.
    Thank you
    Last edited by karachi; 04-25-2016 at 01:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karachi View Post
    Assalam o alaikum FM,


    Umeed hai aap sab Parwardigar k fazl o karam se
    khairiyat se hongey.

    Arz ye hai k yun to mjh qareeb ko kaafi din hogaye TV dekhy huwe, laikin kal subha kisi ka intezar kartay huwey main ne TV channels ki surfing kar raha tha, main ne aik baat khas tour per note ki…..PTV se leker jitney bhi Pakistani channels hain kam o besh 7-8 channels per main ne dekha k khwateen ne dupatta galay main dalna ya kandhay per latkana to dar kinar, siray se us ka wajood hi bardasht karma munasib na samjha tha. Asr e hazir main ye koi itni bari ya achamby ki baat nahin…..aaj kal ka fashion hai.


    Main ne aik jagha parha tha k aurat ki "chati hiss" yani 6th sense mard k muqablay aur mard k liye zara kuch ziyada hi tez hoti hai….main ye baat apni kuch female friends se bhi discuss ki aur khud bhi mushahida kiya aur is baat ko haqiqat paya……to phr kya in khwateen ko is baat ka ehsas nahin hota k un ko kin nazroon ka samna ho raha hai, yaw o is “hiss” sense se aari ho gai hain…

    Mera sawal ye nahin k un khawateen ne dupatta kyun nahin liya tha, ya ye nahin k wo Media ko represent kar rahin thin to un k liye dupatta lena lazmi tha…..nahin qataan” aisa nahin hai…..mera aik bohat hi chota sa aur zara mukhtalif sa sawal hai:

    Kya khwateen dupatta lena nahin chahitin ? ya khwateen is amr se la ta’aluq aur be khabr hain k dupatta un k jism k uss hissay ka parda hai k jissay shehwat majrooh hoti hai aur koi bhi shakhs khwah kitna hi parsaa kyun na ho aik waqt k liye neeyat danwa dol ho hi jati hai.

    Please mujhe aap log tang nazr na samjhiye ga, laikin is mouqay per mjhe Surah Al Ehzab ki Ayat # 58 Shiddat se yaad aai…………aap bhi parhain aur us k baad mjhe apni tammam Female members se reply chahiye, k kya ye khwateen qasdan” aisa karti hain, kya aisa karma chahiye ? ya k hamain is amal aur aisa tamam aamaal ki takfeer karni chahiye ?

    Main chahon ga k is ka jawab sharaee tanazur main nahin bal k maa’sharati tanazur main diya jaye….I mean to say “Do not reply according to Islam, Please comment on the basis of our surrounding Society.”


    Mods, Kindly Stick this thread..........Thanks
    wa alaiakum assalam is mozu per likhnay ki shdeeed khahish thi meri per likh ni saki apne is per bat ki hai inshaAllah detail me jwab dun gi lakin subha ....sorry me thread em late he dekha hai

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoonia View Post
    wa alaiakum assalam is mozu per likhnay ki shdeeed khahish thi meri per likh ni saki apne is per bat ki hai inshaAllah detail me jwab dun gi lakin subha ....sorry me thread em late he dekha hai
    KOI BAT NAHI ZOONIZ,AB DEKH LIYA HAINA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by karachi View Post
    KOI BAT NAHI ZOONIZ,AB DEKH LIYA HAINA?
    to itna munh phaar ker hansnay ki kia tuk hai

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    lerkiyan dopatta lena ni chahti ya wo parday se nashna hain ?..............hmmmm woh lerkiyan jo dopatta ni leti wo waqi lena he ni chahtin werna ye swaal to uthta he nahin hai k nashna hain Allah ne apna pegham dunya k konay konay tk pohncha diya hai or koi b aub pathron k daur me nahin k na,ashnai ka swaal uthay

    Aub sawal ye hai k kion nahin lena chahti? to kuch cheezain hain jo is sub ki wjah hain...aik to yai k humne is baat ko bhula diya hai k humain taumer is dunya me nahin rehna or jo kr rehay uska jwab dena hai or jo saza denay ko Rab en keha hai shaid usko halka le rehay agar aik yehi cheez zehan me rehay to muashra ya baki sub sanvi ho jata

    phir lerkiyan jo dopatta nahin letin unko ye lagtah hai k dopatta lena qdamat prasti hai koi unse kehay Allah ki bandiyo jub Quran ye kehta hai jahliyat ki terhan apni zeenat ka izhaar na kro to kia matlab hai is bat ka qdamat parasti to phir ye hue na k zeenat ko chupaya na jaye hmari shariyat he to modern hai

    or aik or aham cheez ye k mahol kesa bna diya humne milker ismen mujhay lagtah mard hazrat ka ziyada qqasoor hai wo apnay under rehnay wali khwateeen ko roktay nahin unkay liye ye kehun gi ankhain kholain or is naam nihad modernizm ko chorain or zehan em rakhay wo hdees jis me Farmaya gya hai k her aik se uski ra,ayat k baray me poocha jaye ga to roz e mehshar kia jawab dain gay k apni bv apni behan ko parda kion nahin kerwaya is cheez ko zehan me bithain parda sirf dopatta lena he nahin hai apka libass apki jismani sakht ko numaya na kray ye b parday ki ruh hai ajkal jesa libaas hota hai fitting uski wo dopattay se chup b ni skta

    or aik bat or kehna chahun gi Jub Allah nain apni kitab main parday k ahkamat nazil kiye to sath eh nazrai neechi rakhnay ka hukam bhi jari huwa tha pehli nazar per pakar nahin aap aik k bad dusri iradtan daltay hain to mard hazrat nigahon ko jhukatay kion nahin hain nigahon ko jhukana to khair khwateen k liye bhi hai lakin phir bhi ye swaal mera hai mard hazrat dupatta le ker jati lerki ko ghoornay se b baz ni atay to gar bar aik jagah ni hai ye hum he hain jinhon ne mahol bnana hai or muashra bnana hai apni apni jagah khud ko darust kr lain fitnay apni maut ap mer jain gay Allah se dua hai wo mujhay b parday per karband rehnay ki taufeeq de or jo kami hai usko door kr de or sarf e nazar keray or baki sub behno ko b tafeeq day Qura ko smjhnay ki perhny ki ameen @Fareena @karachi @Zee Leo @cutepoison @~Bahaar~ @Mr_M4k @Hans_Mukh @Great_Gambler @*Shani* @*Rahat* @Pari
    Last edited by zoonia; 04-27-2016 at 02:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoonia View Post
    lerkiyan dopatta lena ni chahti ya wo parday se nashna hain ?..............hmmmm woh lerkiyan jo dopatta ni leti wo waqi lena he ni chahtin werna ye swaal to uthta he nahin hai k nashna hain Allah ne apna pegham dunya k konay konay tk pohncha diya hai or koi b aub pathron k daur me nahin k na,ashnai ka swaal uthay

    Aub sawal ye hai k kion nahin lena chahti? to kuch cheezain hain jo is sub ki wjah hain...aik to yai k humne is baat ko bhula diya hai k humain taumer is dunya me nahin rehna or jo kr rehay uska jwab dena hai or jo saza denay ko Rab en keha hai shaid usko halak le rehay agar aik yehi cheez zehan em rehay to muashra ya baki sub sanvi ho jata

    phir lerkiyan jo dopatta nahin letin unko ye lagtah hai k dopatta lena qdamat prasti hai koi unse kehay Allah ki bandiyo jub Quran ye kehta hai jahliyat ki terhan apni zeenat ka izhaar na kro to kia matlab hai is bat ka qdamat parasti to phir ye hue na k zeenat ko chupaya na jaye hmari shariyat he to modern hai

    or aik or aham cheez ye k mahol kesa bna diya humne milker ismen mujhay lagtah mard hazrat ka ziyada qqasoor hai wo apnay under rehnay wali khwateeen ko roktay nahin unkay liye ye kehun gi ankhain kholain or is naam nihad modernizm ko chorain or zehan em rakhay wo hdees jis me Farmaya gya hai k her aik se uski ra,ayat k baray me poocha jaye ga to roz e mehshar kia jawab dain gay k apni bv apni behan ko parda kion nahin kerwaya is cheez ko zehan me bithain parda sirf dopatta lena he nahin hai apka libass apki jismani sakht ko numaya na kray ye b parday ki ruh hai ajkal jesa libaas hota hai fitting uski wo dopattay se chup b ni skta

    or aik bat or kehna chahun gi Jub Allah nain apni kitab main parday k ahkamat nazil kiye to sath eh nazrai neechi rakhnay ka hukam bhi jari huwa tha pehli nazar per pakar nahin aap aik k bad dusri iradtan daltay hain to mard hazrat nigahon ko jhukatay kion nahin hain nigahon ko jhukana to khair khwateen k liye bhi hai lakin phir bhi ye swaal mera hai mard hazrat dupatta le ker jati lerki ko ghoornay se b baz ni atay to gar bar aik jagah ni hai ye hum he hain jinhon ne mahol bnana hai or muashra bnana hai apni apni jagah khud ko darust kr lain fitnay apni maut ap mer jain gay Allah se dua hai wo mujhay b parday per karband rehnay ki taufeeq de or jo kami hai usko door kr de or sarf e nazar keray or baki sub behno ko b tafeeq day Qura ko smjhnay ki perhny ki ameen @Fareena @karachi @Zee Leo @cutepoison @~Bahaar~ @Mr_M4k @Hans_Mukh @Great_Gambler @*shani8 @*Rahat*
    Wao mashallah well written zoonia Sis sahi kaha insan sab bhool gye hain

    “And we are put on this earth a little space that we might learn to bear the beams of love”

    Life is what happens while you are
    busy making other plans.



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    Buhat acha topic hai @karachi aur bilkul theek farmaya hai .. Burai asal main humare apne muashirey main peda hogai hai.. mostly girls dopata lena sirf fashion samjhti hain. aur ub toe abaya bhi fashion ban gaya hai lol aise aise abayay dekhney ko miltey hain ke banda sochta hai ke is se acha tha ke ye abaya pehanti he nahi. buhat afsoos hota hai aaj kal jahan bhi nazar dorayen aisa he dikhta hai buhat kam girls aisi hain ke jo proper pardey ka khayal rakhti hain. mera office Tariq Road par hai aur wohan par aney wali ladies ka haal main yahan words main bayan nahi kar sakta hon. in sab ke zimedari mard hazrat hain jo ke apni aurtoon ko aise bahir janey ki ijazat detey hain. Allah hum sab par reham farmaye Aameen

    Woh Ishq Jo Hum Se Rooth Gaya
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